"When we played LSU in 2012, guess what? We didn't have the same TV contract, we definitely didn't have the same athletic budget, but we had the same amount of five-stars and four-stars . . . We're 3-1 against Ohio State. We will never have an equal alumni base to Ohio State, one of the greatest programs in the country. We certainly don't have the same budget. But we've been able to compete. We always have."

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